Even tho Jeff propably is a juicer, there’s no point in saying that “One of the best ways to find out whether someone is a natural bodybuilder is to perform a simple comparison between him and a known steroid abuser”. That’s totally absurd. You’re ignoring every other circunstance and focusing only on the stats. So it doens’t matter if you’ve been training for your whole life or started right now? Your diet doesn’t matter? Nor your training routine? Nothing matter but the stats? That’s so stupid.