Toward the end of the proceeding the hearing officer was definitely listening to our testimony with interest, and even rolled her eyes when I said the Department had pretended all summer to not understand that we did not want to be licensed so they had an excuse to continue with inspections. So we are cautiously optimistic about her ruling, though Gary believes she may want to wait to see what the outcome of the hearings in Waterloo is first in order to use the judge’s legal grounds (. which laws he references as justification for his decisions) in her written decision. If the hearing officer rules against us the Department will order us to cease and desist. If she rules in our favor she will be saying we do not need any permit and that our LLC system is a legitimate model for providing raw milk to folks. In either case, we now know the extent of their arguments and know how to rebutt them and have more evidence against them in the form of statements they made themselves and are well set to take a solid case to the judge in Waterloo on Tuesday.